Name: melissa Gillette
Email: melissagillette07@yahoo.com
Date: 3/22/2010 10:31:45 AM
Message:
Jeep- other people on this board might want to remember that tip as well. [deleted]
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 3/22/2010 9:55:59 AM
Message:
Rob, did that nut just tell you to, "lock up your dogs" ? Could it be he's in season again?
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/22/2010 9:04:03 AM
Message:
Ronald Ellison....You are aware that the tax records can be accessed on-line and if you owned a house it would show...... That is if you are using your real name.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/22/2010 8:42:55 AM
Message:
Mar 21, 2010 at 10:48 pm EST, the U. S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3590, health care reform, by a vote of 219 in favor to 212 against. All 178 Republican Representatives voted against it.
At 10:55 The Republican party attempting to delay the enactment of the newly passed legislature thru submission of a motion to “recommit” H.R. 4872 which was subsequently defeated.
The next vote taken was to approve H.R. 4872. It was voted on and passed with the same type of numbers in favor of passage.
The Republican Party has made it clear. No matter what, passage of legislature or otherwise, they will not support the Obama Administration. It did not take them five minutes to start stall tactics. They want it their way or no way. The tactics employed by conservatives and republican leadership are despicable. Throughout this debate and development of legislature, they have intentionally spread or simply sat back and watched the spreading of false information, i.e. “illegal aliens will be authorized free health care if this legislation passes”. Death panels for Grandma. Did they ever renounce this information as being false even though they knew it was false? No instead they sat back and watched while lie after lie was told and people were incited against this legislature. It didn’t matter to Republicans if people were against this legislature for real reasons or manufactured reasons. They only thing that mattered was that people remain against it. Not the truth. The Republican Party has shown they will do or allow anything if it means they get their way and win one for the “party”. Republicans keep claiming pro-life is a major issue. Pro-life for the unborn only? Some estimates put deaths that are attributable to a lack of insurance upwards of 40,000 people a year. How about the people that are already here that need protecting? How pro-life is it of these people to turn their backs on those in need of medical care now? Don’t they count as “life”? Isn’t that rather hypocritical? I do not doubt that there are many people passionate about pro-life issues and funding. I also believe there are just as many that have used it as an excuse to stall this legislature. It was simply a tool to incite opposition. The misdirection and deceitful tactics failed. This bill is no panacea for reform but it’s a start.
I would have supported this effort even if I had not agreed with most of it based on the deceit, lies, distortions and embellishment from those that opposed it. The truth was not good enough so dishonest, self-serving, traitors to this country created issues out of nothing to try to incitee opposition. It worked for a while. It has divided this country like very few other issues have in our past and that division was caused by dishonest cretins and mentally challenged "conservatives" who bought the rhetoric hook line and sinker as well as the insurance industry. People like Robbiie girl and Non-Vet.
Name: Pam
Email: b72kids@yahoo.com
Date: 3/20/2010 8:48:28 PM
Message:
This is to the people who live in the city of Jasper.
From the officer I spoke with this weekend, we have no ordinance on the riding of golf carts in the city. So make sure you get to the next city meeting being held April 12 @6:pm . Let the Mayor know that we don't want these allowed. Think about having these running thru our streets and your liability if you hit someone on one of these. If you can't make the meeting ,call and let the Mayor and Chief of Police- don't pass this.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 3/20/2010 8:13:48 PM
Message:
Chuckie, care to elaborate on this statement?
"A so called "man" who depends on his [deleted]. " [editor's note -- use private e-mail]
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/20/2010 5:32:33 PM
Message:
Mooch, and you other communists: where do you think the United States is going to get this kind of money WITHOUT RAISING TAXES AND FURTHER WEAKENING THE ECONOMY? I would love to hear the answer! You keep telling us everything is just fine!
Democrats have so thoroughly gamed the budget process and the Congressional Budget Office’s scoring rules that the official cost estimates of the Obama health plan reveal but a sliver of the legislation’s full cost. The Obama plan would vastly increase the size and scope of the federal government, and increase our already record federal deficit.
To hear Democrats tell it, the CBO projects the legislation would cost a mere $940 billion over the next 10 years. The CBO said no such thing: that figure pertains only to provisions aimed at expanding health insurance. Other spending provisions bring the cost to $1.2 trillion.
Then there’s the additional $208 billion that Democrats plan to spend on physicians who participate in Medicare. Democrats moved that into a separate bill to reduce the apparent cost of the main health care bill. Including that spending in the estimate completely wipes out the Obama plan’s professed $138 billion of deficit reduction. After correcting for that gimmick (and accounting for how the two measures would interact), the CBO estimates really indicate that the Obama plan would increase federal deficits by $59 billion over the next 10 years.
Even worse, Democrats hid another $1.5 trillion by preventing the CBO from scoring the legislation’s hidden taxes. At present, when Congress takes money from workers and gives it to private insurers, the CBO counts that as a tax. The Obama plan’s “individual mandate” would force workers to give money directly to private insurers, which the president’s economic advisers admit is also a tax. If history is any guide, those hidden taxes would cost roughly $1.5 trillion – but you won’t find any such estimate in the CBO’s score.
If you’ve been keeping count, we’ve revealed the actual cost of the bill is nearly $3 trillion. But to believe this legislation would cost “only” $3 trillion, we would have to assume that after President Obama signs it into law, it would be rushed to the National Archives and entombed within an impenetrable vault where it would never again be touched by God or man.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/20/2010 4:42:45 PM
Message:
NamVet....I think Chooch's disability is real. You can get on disability due to mental problems.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 3/20/2010 1:10:44 PM
Message:
that wasn't me who posted that crap about glenn beck. I don't even know who he is.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/20/2010 12:53:52 PM
Message:
Ellison, you really believe in the conspiracy theory of FEMA's secret plan to install a new government? How about the 9-11 conspiracy? Bigfoot?
Did you really spend all that time on a huge post about the potential threat of big government and lay the blame on Ronald Reagan who cut the size of the federal government by 40%? First you argue for a huge, controlling government, then you attack it-when you can attach a Republican leader to it.
Again, you are nothing but a rock-thrower who can't settle on an idealogy without making yourself look stupid. Maybe you should be living in a real communist country so you can actually make an informed comparison between rights given you by God, and those bestowed at the whim of the government.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/20/2010 12:46:25 PM
Message:
Chuck, I am 41 years old. I have a 401K. I work because it is what people do to make money. Most of us real American people work for a living. I do not live off of the taxpayers like you do. How do you presume to know what I have or have not done to prepare for my future? I would just love to hear this!
Like I said way too many times, I was in the US Navy from 1987-1999. I never said otherwise. I was exposed to chemical weapons, either detonated by the enemy or by disposal units. I underwent chemical washdowns at least twice in the early 90's. Millions of Iraqi Kurds were not as fortunate as we were to live through it.
I would love to hear your next attempt to characterize me as a liar, O Great One, who believes "drinking the kool aid" is a racist statement; Jimmy Carter didn't mean "all" who disagree with Obama are racists (just most of them); and "I will beat your fat ass" is not meant to be a threat.
You are classically ignorant.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 3/20/2010 12:32:11 PM
Message:
The unholy Chooch has gone where even I dare not trod. I may have to consider repenting and changing my views.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/20/2010 12:28:49 PM
Message:
You are all talk, mooch. It is painfully obvious to everyone except Ellison(Old Guard, Old Fraud, etc).
You have Napoleon Syndrome, and severe narcissism. You have consistantly used intimidation to get your point across. Every single time I have asked you to prove my so-called lies, you can't. Your only recourse is to resort to your old trusted friends, threats and intimidation.
Well, we get it, Chuck. You need to be a 60-something rear-old bully. You are literally dying to show us wippersnappers a thing or two, because you lack the capacity to defend your ideals in any other way. Simply pasting policy statements from MoveOn.org doesn't count, neither does trying to sell communism to an overwhelmingly conservative demographic-which is Pickens County. You believe in the Bill Mahar philosophy which says if we won't accept it, just "drag us to it". You see how well that is working, right?
In short (get it? Napoleon Syndrome?) you are a dried up card-carrying communist who drapes himself in the American flag which you have spit on. You are less than the dirt I walk on and not worthy of the taxes I pay to sustain your fraudulent disability claim. My money is better spent on real heroes of this country who still believe in what that flag stands for. Keep calling me things like fat boy if it makes you feel superior. Or come get a look at my real appearance which may actually surprise you. Or just sit there and keep getting yourself worked up until your ears bleed-- in any case I am here laughing at your self destruction.
Please post more!
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/20/2010 11:44:35 AM
Message:
chooch the Mooch, I actually got tired of reading your childish rant. By the way, I don't drink so i'm not a drunk like yourself. I don't go around picking fights like you but if your really interested, have your people call my people @ 706-253-8901.
Now with regards to the rest of whatever you wrote, since I stopped reading due to boredom, [deleted]. Your such a putz chuckie!
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/20/2010 11:41:44 AM
Message:
Moocher:
Our existing federal health care program spending grows at a rate of 23% per year. The private industry maintains a 2-5% rate. How does government keep "costs" down with so much unfunded spending? It doesn't. It just reduces the rate at which it pays doctors for treating government moocers like you. That compells providers to drop medicare patients, such as Walgreens. So now the govt. will force those providers to accept government moochers. In turn, there will be less providers. Walgreens will charge us twice as much for merchandise to make up the shortfall and 46% of doctors now say they will stop practicing medicine altogether.
Communism hasn't worked anywhere else in the world either.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 3/20/2010 11:41:00 AM
Message:
Here are a few stats for you, mooch. Your beloved illegal aliens are a mooch on US society, as you are:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/ TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers.Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.' Verify at: http: www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
You are proving yourself more of an idiot to be taken in by your party's lies.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/20/2010 8:38:17 AM
Message:
Any time you want to try to arrange for me to seek medical attention in an emergency room NON-Vet, let me know. I ate chumps like you for breakfast many times in the past. I'm pretty certain your claim of being a Viet-Nam Vet are about as factual as Rob's claim to having been exposed to WMD's. Your just another person riding on the coattails of those that actually did serve. You talk a lot of garbage just like your twin Rob, but you both are lacking in a spine. You only talk a lot of shit to impress people. Im not impressed in the least by your obvious lack of brain cells. It is also quite apparent from your many late night incoherent postings that your little more than an old drunk.
Name: Chooch
Email: chedrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/20/2010 8:32:07 AM
Message:
What a hilarious joke. A so called "man" who depends on his [deleted]. Someone that repeatedly lies to people about such things as being exposed to WMD's in Iraq when he was not even there. Yes Rob, You. You LIED about being exposed to WMD's in Iraq to gain sympathy and agreement from other mis-informed loons like the Non-Vet, when you were not even there, calls me a traitor and a disgrace to my uniform. Someone that has INTENTIONALLY, repeatedly lied to others about illegal aliens being authorized free health care if reform passes, someone that has INTENTIONALLY lied about things Sec of State Clinton, and the President, supposedly said reference funding for global warming initiatives, all in an attempt to influence others to agree with him so he can get pats on the back, again from mis-informed loons like the NON-Vet calls me a loser. If anyone here is guilty of treason it is you and your kind. [deleted] like you that do not know half of what they want others to think they know. You lie, you deceive, you embellish and you twist facts because the truth doesn't give you anything to get a pat on the back from these intellectually challenged individuals, again like NON-Vet and Volkswagon but the majority of the people that read this message board know you are full of [deleted]. They also know that your problems stem from a massive inferiorty complex so you create "stories" and that is exactly what they are, stories, to seek approval for your inadequacies. I retired at age 39 from the U.S. Army. I draw a pension and planned my life accordingly. I do not have to work to make ends meet and pay my bills on time. But here we have Rob, who has no choice but to continue to work because he was not intelligetn enough nor responsible enough to plan for his future, calling me a loser, a nothing. That's sort of like a rat calling a cat, dinner. If anyone is a loser, a nothing, a traitor to this country, a disgrace to those that wear the uniform, it is you fat boy.
Name: Ronald Ellison
Email:
Date: 3/19/2010 3:00:06 PM
Message:
First reported in the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987,Alfonzo Chardy, revealed Oliver North's involvement in plans for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to take over federal, state and local functions during an ill-defined national emergency. . .
According to Chardy, the plan called for the 'suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the government over to the Federal Management Agency, emergency appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments and declaration of martial law.' The proposal appears to have forgotten that Congress, legislatures and the judiciary even existed.
In a November 18, 1991 story, the New York Times elaborated:
"Acting outside the Constitution in the early 1980s, a secret federal agency established a line of succession to the presidency to assure continued government". The program was called "Continuity of Government." In the words of a report by the Fund for Constitutional Government, "succession or succession-by-designation would be implemented by unknown and perhaps unelected persons who would pick three potential successor presidents in advance of an emergency. These potential successors to the Oval Office may not be elected, and they are not confirmed by Congress.
According to CNN, the list eventually grew to 17 names and included Howard Baker, Richard Helms, Jeanne Kirkpatrick James Schlesinger, Richard Thornberg, Edwin Meese, Tip O'Neil, and Richard Cheney.
The plan was not even limited to a nuclear attack but included any "national security emergency" which was defined as:
"Any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological or other emergency, that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States."
This bizarre scheme was dismissed in many Washington quarters as further evidence of the loony quality of the whole Iran/contra affair. One FEMA official called it a lot of crap while a representative for Attorney General Meese described it as 'bullshit.". . .
At least one high government official took the plan seriously enough to vigorously oppose it. In a August 1984 letter to NSC chair Robert McFarlane, Attorney General William French Smith wrote:
"I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised Executive Order exceeds its proper function as a coordinating agency for emergency preparedness . . . This department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to the creation of an 'emergency czar' role for FEMA."
FEMA was clearly out of control. Another memo, written in 1982 to then FEMA director Louis Giuffrida and given only tightly restricted circulation even within the agency, made this astonishing assertion:
"Over the long term, the peacetime action programs of FEMA and other departments and agencies have the effect of making the conceivable need for military takeover less and less as time goes by. A fully implemented civil defense program may not now be regarded as a substitute for martial law, nor could it be so marketed, but if successful in its execution it could have that effect."
The memo essentially proposed that the American people would rather be taken over by FEMA than by the military. When those are the options on the table, you know you're in trouble.
The head of FEMA until 1985, Giuffrida also once wrote a paper on the Legal Aspects of Managing Disorders. Here is some of what he said:
"No constitution, no statute or ordinance can authorize Martial Rule. [It commences] upon a determination (not a declaration) by the senior military commander that the civil government must be replaced because it is no longer functioning anyway . . . The significance of Martial Rule in civil disorders is that it shifts control from civilians and to the military completely and without the necessity of a declaration, proclamation or other form of public manifestation . . . As stated above, Martial Rule is limited only by the principle of necessary force."
Those words come from a time when Giuffrida was the head of then-Governor Reagan's California Specialized Training Institute, a National Guard school. It was not, for Giuffrida, a new thought. In 1970 he had written a paper for the Army War College in which he called for martial law in case of a national uprising by black militants. Among his ideas were "assembly centers or relocation camps" for at least 21 million "American Negroes."
During 1968 and 1972, Reagan ran a series of war games in California called Cable Splicer, which involved the Guard, state and local police, and the US Sixth Army. Details of this operation were reported in 1975 in a story by Ron Ridenour of the New Times, an Arizona alternative paper, and later exhumed by Dave Lindorff in the Village Voice.
Cable Splicer, it turned out, was a training exercise for martial law. The man in charge was none other than Edwin Meese, then Reagan's executive secretary. At one point, Meese told the Cable Splicer combatants:
"This is an operation, this is an exercise, this is an objective which is going forward because in the long run . . . it is the only way that will be able to prevail [against anti-war protests.]"
Addressing the kickoff of Cable Splicer, Governor Reagan told some 500 military and police officers:
"You know, there are people in the state who, if they could see this gathering right now and my presence here, would decide their worst fears and convictions had been realized -- I was planning a military takeover."
Rob, this is fact and not opinion. Reagan don't sound like the saint you illustrated him to be. By the way, what became of all those millions spent on the "star wars" plan... last I checked we don't have a series of satelites protecting us but we paid for them.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 3/19/2010 2:59:23 PM
Message:
glenn beck just told me that progressives are nazis. he said when I say that I think some agency should make sure paint makers don't put too much lead in their paint, what I mean is I want to sterilize and kill all the Jews. I had no idea. Glenn Beck what an insightful man.
Name: Ronald Ellison
Email:
Date: 3/19/2010 2:12:04 PM
Message:
Robbie,
I don't have to "drive by"... I bought property and have made permanent arrangements to stay right next door to you. Lock up your dogs and barricade your doors... I'm here to stay!!
Name: Ronald Ellison
Email:
Date: 3/19/2010 2:07:56 PM
Message:
Robbie,
This is my real name and has been for the last 66 years.
Little feller, let me know when you are grownup and can come outside without hiding [deleted]. I extend my peaceful offering to meet and discuss, like men, the issues you present on this board.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/19/2010 8:36:34 AM
Message:
And once again Roberta, I say your a flaming liar and [deleted]. Telling someone point blank that specific actions would take place if certain conditions were met is not a threat. Telling someone that they would never say the things to my face that they write because they know I would knock them on their deleted], is a statement of fact, not a threat. If it had been a threat as you alleged and continue to try to convince people I would have been arrested now wouldn't I? And I will say it again fat boy, try saying the crap you write to my face, [deleted] like you, that distort the truth, embelish, misquote others, twist the facts, omit facts that do not support the lies they tell others, are a disgrace to this country and impede progress to make things better for the majority. Its too bad the truth is not good enough so asses like you create opposition with your stupid remarks about "illegal aliens" "Obama isnt an American citizen", death panels for Grandma, prison for not buying insurance,, etc. etc. etc. The facts are not good enough so jerks like you ceate issues to keep opposition at a high. Jerks like you think if you tell the same lie over and over people will start to believe it. In the case of most of the intellectually challenged that post on this board like NamVet and 4 wheels that are not turning, once is sufficient. For those with an open mind and a desire to see things get better for the majority of our citizens, we know better. Your so stupid and hardheaded now your trying to convince everyone that Reagonomics worked. Hey dumbass,, read the Tax Reform Act of 1986. It was put into law to fix what Reaganomics broke. Your just too stupid and stubborn to understand it. If Reagonomics worked why was a Reform Act necessary in 1986. No Rob, you just want to disagree with anything I have to say and each time you just show your just a stubborn jackass and that if I say it is going to rain, you will say it is going to be sunny. Your arguments have nothng to do with facts. It has everything to do with you seeing me as your competition in your twisted little world. Your afraid someone will take away your thunder on this message board of losers and then what would you have.
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Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/19/2010 7:51:52 AM
Message:
Well said Rob, well said. Can't wait to see what Mooch's people respond. You know he has a staff now that does his work for him.
I bet they suggest beating you up or something really scary. Maybe they will call you some naughty names and ruin your weekend. He could have Pinto call you stupid and write something totally off the wall too. At any rate I know your gonna shiver when you see what they write.
"Chooch" the "Mooch" brought to you by moveon.org. moveon.org when exlax just won't work.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/18/2010 10:05:47 PM
Message:
Oh chuckie. Where to begin! You and I have a long storied past. I need to say this again, apparently. I made a police report because you were threatening violence. It is just that simple. You never got over that- GOOD. That was the point. That behavior is unacceptable. We are not 9 years old anymore. If adults threaten each other, they are responsible for their actions. Welcome to reality.
And, how many times must we go over the "fat boy" thing? Do you need to be called a child AGAIN? Really? Chuck, the reality is pretty far from your perception. I am OVER your pettiness. You are a paper tiger. You are nothing more than a wannabe communist. You were intrigued by the concept that progressives are somehow "enlightened", and we constitutional patriots are dumb and living in the past. Since you are are a complete nothing in your own life, you are making me suffer for your own narcissism. Since you took an oath to support and defend our constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, you decided to commit yourself to a cause that will usurp the constitution and virtually institute monarchical rule. You are a disgrace to the uniform you wore, and to everyone who wears it now to defend freedom. You are lower than the ground I walk on. You will answer to God for the treason you have committed against freedom and liberty in you mind and with your actions and words. You are scum, dirt and a traitor. May God have mercy on your soul.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/18/2010 9:47:27 PM
Message:
Namvet,
You are dead on right. You pointed out long ago that this guy claims to be on disability, and if that's true (for a man who prtrays himself as quite physically able) he is part of the statistical fraud we pay billions for each year to the federal govt. I still think this is all about ego. This nut is here to "teach" us backwoods folk something.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/18/2010 9:41:48 PM
Message:
Ronald Ellison
You are not worth my time, little fella. You are indeed a coward, who stopped in to confront me in order to elicit a specific response. Tell us your real name. Perhaps that will your cause. Until then, drive on by.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/18/2010 3:48:29 PM
Message:
I see the Mooch is talking about knocking people on their fat ass again. This from a "Disabled" pansy a@* liberal bully thug. This is what I'm talking about, a "Disabled" person who is so disabled he can stay home, pump iron, threaten people and pitch welfare issues for moveon.org. This is why he is called the "Mooch."
I dare say he would be hospitalized if he tried to carry out his threats but then we have a fine EMS group in Pickens County to assist his butt into the emergency room.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/18/2010 3:29:07 PM
Message:
I thought Chooch said he wasn't going to read the posts anymore....
His people! Now MoveOn.org are his people! He is a funny one.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/18/2010 3:02:35 PM
Message:
Under the Senate bill, employers would not be required to purchase health insurance for their workers, and if they decided not to do so, the maximum penalty they would have to pay would be $750 per year for each worker they did not insure who subsequently received a federal subsidy to buy insurance. The $750 penalty on employers who decided not to insure their workers would be far less than they would pay in premiums for the $12,000 minimum required plan.
The C.B.O. estimates MOST employers will drop coverage for their employees since it is cheaper to pay the $750 than $12,000 for insurance.
NOW THAT IS CHANGE YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK. HOPE Y'ALL LIKE OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALISM.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/18/2010 2:49:27 PM
Message:
Something the Mooch isn't telling you: Better read the bill before you get excited or else....
"If Congress passes the Senate health-care plan, according to an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office, American families will be required by federal law to buy a federally approved health insurance plan that will cost a minimum of $12,000 per year--and, on average, will cost $15,000 per year -- whether their employer or the government helps them with the premium or not."
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/18/2010 12:45:24 PM
Message:
Ronald Ellison....if healthcare is a "freedom" than why are the rich and middle class being forced to pay for the poor's healthcare? Maybe we just have different views on freedom....
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/18/2010 12:42:27 PM
Message:
One other thing Roberta... I don't do my own research any longer. I have people doing it for me. Maybe someday you will be in the same position so you at least can post something factual once. Until then you keep "checking" what I post. Should keep you busy enough to leave other people alone.
Have a nice day dumb ass.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/18/2010 12:42:03 PM
Message:
Bob....I'm still laughing at yesterdays post.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 3/18/2010 12:41:20 PM
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Toyota....Seems pretty logical to me. Government motors has had numerous "safety" recalls and they never got this kind of press.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/18/2010 12:35:17 PM
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Winston just ignore the fat boy. I think it is funny as hell him calling someone a coward. This clown hasn't even got a spine must less a clue as to what a man is. He called the Pickens Sheriff department to file a complaint about being threatened from me because I told him in an email he would never say the things he writes to my face because he knows I would knock him on his fat ass. He talks a lot but that all his fat ass is capable of doing. He is little more than a buffoon that wants others to think he is something he is not.. that being knowledgable. He likes to instigate confrontation but he can't finish it. He can only write like the little girl he is.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/18/2010 12:15:56 PM
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3 million -- that's the decrease in the number of middle-income earners who obtained health insurance from their employers from 2000 to 2008.
And 3 times -- is how much faster health care premiums are rising compared to wages.
While our broken health care system is hurting everyone, it's the middle class that's feeling it the most. A report just out from the non-partisan Robert Wood Johnson Foundation shows that the middle class became uninsured at a faster pace than those with less or more income. And if we do nothing, the problem will only get worse.
Health insurance reform will lower costs and put America's middle class and small businesses back in the driver's seat of their own health care. The stakes are just too high for the millions of Americans who are hurting because of the way our current health care system works.
more to follow of course......
Name: lord hidetori
Email: akira.net
Date: 3/18/2010 11:14:20 AM
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Healthcare reform is a long overdue pig in a poke. Consider if you . Efforts to see that America provides decent healthcare for everyone at a price that doesn't bankrupt small businesses dates back to the turn of the century.
This latest go round was actually off to a good start. Shortly after being elected, Obama sponsored a series of conferences meeting all players in the process -- CEO's of insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, doctors and us ordinary folk. And he met in public and sometimes on television to undermine the lobbyists.
But then the conservatives and Republicans got nervous. If successful, a Democrat would steal too much of their thunder. The consevatives, tea-partiers all jumped in lock-step with the rich republicans and took obstructionism to a new high. Some republican measures have made it into the bill, but even before beginning negotiation prominent conservatives said they would never vote for it. In one famous exchange a nervous Senator (I think Saxby but I might be confused on this) was asked whether he would rather fix the healthcare reform efforts or destroy the effort and he really couldn't answer.
In the recent past, recall, that Republicans had voted to cut Medicare, turn Medicare into a voucher system, allow and even pay for end-of-life discussion -- the now famous death squads of Palin verbiage. Under Bush, they socialized perscriptions. But now all those things became very bad things that only Obama's party did.
They then threw out enough scare tactics to totally distort the debate, which still comes back to something as simple as whether our medical system in this country is in need of serious overhaul. It is.
So, oddly I agree with NamVet. I say it's time to pass reform and let's see what we get. And you know what? If we don't like phase 1, we can reform it again. Among the republican scare tactics, is the idea that one bad part of the overall reform will doom us forever. It's not perfidy to say that the reform will be a work in progress. We have revised policies before that don't work, prohibition for example, without destroying the republic.
And finaly, conservative and republicans fiends, bear in mind that at the end of the day, Obama won and handily. He's not there by fluke, or theft or deception. He got the votes.
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Date: 3/18/2010 9:47:10 AM
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Ronald Ellison...
First, if you are going to call someone out for calling names, you might want to not call names yourself (the "coward" comment)..It makes you look rather stupid and hypocritical.
Second, you contend that VA and medicare-medicaid is one person collecting aid off another's taxes. This is item two in your diatribe that shows you to be stupid.
Medicare and SS are not someone else's taxes...they are essentially an "insurance benefit" for the premiums each worker pays during a working life.
SS is just a government forced, government run 401K...you pay in from your income while you work, and you collect when you finish working...same as a private 401K. The difference is that the government 401K is run in a way that the money is gone...but that is not the citizen's fault. Its still his money he is getting back. (at a crappy return rate BTW).
Medicare is the same...you pay health insurance "premiums" all your working life, and collect on that "insurance" when you get sick after retirement.
Dumb ass. (I can say that. I didn't get on someone for name calling...LOL)
BH
http://www.JuicyMaters.com
Like mangoes? You might enjoy this http://juicymaters.com/blog1/?page_id=437
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 3/18/2010 9:35:40 AM
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Just wait till you have to pay for all the "Free" stuff Mooch talks about. Pre-existing claims and such cost money. No sense in arguing anymore, I say vote for it and learn your lesson. I can't wait to hear the crying when the tax man comes next year for your health insurance, especially if you can't afford it now. Wow, this will be good. Of course the Mooch and Pinto will be long gone or deny ever supporting it when you can't afford your tax bill and you find out you got a pig in a poke.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/18/2010 6:51:52 AM
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It is worth noting, chuck that Reagan didn't spend his entire presidency blaming Carter for the mess we were in, then turn around and use the same practices he condemned Carter for and quadruple the debt in his first year.
Name: Toyota
Email: Gaspedal@isbs.com
Date: 3/18/2010 12:37:16 AM
Message:
Ok ok ok... before you think I am crazy... I want to say that I do not think what happened to poeple who died in Toyotas with gas peddle problems is not for real. However, everyone should know you throw a car in neutral it cant go. Then dahh shut it off!
Ok so who here then agrees with me that the federal government loves the fact that toyota is having major problems with PR and I beleive that the federal government and media is behind the exploitation or overblown cases of this. In other words its good for business at Government Motors and Chysler. Right?
Name: Ronald Ellison
Email:
Date: 3/17/2010 7:46:23 PM
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Rob,
Strong words from such a coward like yourself!!!
Truth!? You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass and slapped you in the face!!
The only "truth" you can comprehend is the kind that fits into your "agenda" of self govern... aka "blind freedom". Blind freedom is the process of self governship that overlaps the freedom of others without regard for anothers rights to individual freedom of thought or speech. You have deminstrated this concept in every post you make.
BTW, the name calling is clearly not making you appear more intelligent... but showing a lack of intelligence.
Rob, You wrote "As far as medical debt: if you incur debt, pay it. I refuse to accept the notion that I should have to pay your medical bills. Pay your own damn bills".
This is interesting... are you planning to receive VA benefits and Medicare/-caid coverage one day? Hate to break this to you Robbie but Uncle Sam gives this to you by taking money out of the pocket of the taxpayer! Your VA bill and service pension are the same thing. We, the taxpayer, give you this. Perhaps, you need to think about what would happen if ALL TAXPAYER FUNDING WAS ELLIMINATED!!
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 3/17/2010 7:24:31 PM
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Chuckie
Here is the full text of what you stole to write your letter. I apologize to everyone for the length, but it is important to note that supply-side economics does indeed work, and was responsible for the most prosperous economy the world had ever witnessed. During Reagan's tenure, 21 million jobs, sustainable jobs, were created. You have again tried to re-write history and slammed the greatest period of growth in US history.
"During his 1980 campaign, Ronald Reagan promised to end the economic and hostage crises that had plagued Jimmy Carter's administration. The hostage crisis was solved for him when, only hours after he was sworn in, Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini released the captive Americans. With one victory under his belt, Reagan dedicated himself to making good on his other promise. The American people trusted him to do so.
In February 1981 Reagan presented the Economic Tax Recovery Act to Congress, calling for massive personal and corporate tax cuts, reductions in government spending, and a balanced budget. The program was based on supply side economics: Tax cuts, the theory went, would allow people either to spend more on goods and services, thus giving the economy a boost, or to invest in businesses, thus leading to economic growth. The economic expansion, supply side theorists argued, would generate enough revenue to cover the shortfall resulting from the initial cut in tax rates.
In an effort to balance the budget, Reagan "propose[d] budget cuts in virtually every department of government." While he cut back social programs, including school-lunch programs and payments for people with disabilities, he refused to touch Social Security and Medicare. He also advocated deregulation of certain industries in an effort to reduce the government's role in the economy, and proposed such a massive military buildup that Pentagon spending would reach $34 million an hour during his administration.
At first some Republicans were skeptical and most Democrats were hostile toward the Recovery Act. To overcome opposition, Reagan lobbied hard in Congress and used his skills as the "Great Communicator" to persuade the country. One after another, Congressmen began to line up behind Reagan’s program. Feeling for Reagan swelled after John Hinckley, Jr.'s, assassination attempt on March 30, 1981. Perhaps his rapid, dramatic recovery was seen as emblematic of what the country could achieve under his leadership. By July 1981, Reagan’s economic program won the support of two-thirds of the American public and was approved by enough Democrats to get it through Congress.
When, in August 1981, Reagan signed his Recovery Act into law at Rancho del Cielo, his Santa Barbara ranch, he promised to find additional cuts to balance the budget, which had a projected deficit of $80 billion -- the largest, to that date, in U.S. history. That fall, the economy took a turn for the worse. To fight inflation, running at a rate of 14 percent per year, the Federal Reserve Board had increased interest rates. Recession was the inevitable result. Blue-collar workers who had largely supported Reagan were hard hit, as many lost their jobs.
The United States was experiencing its worst recession since the Depression, with conditions frighteningly reminiscent of those 50 years earlier. By November 1982, unemployment reached, nine million, the highest rate since the Depression; 17,000 businesses failed, the second highest number since 1933; farmers lost their land; and many sick, elderly, and poor became homeless.
The country lived through the recession for a full year before Reagan finally admitted publicly that the economy was in trouble. His budget cuts, which hurt the poor, and his tax cuts, which favored the rich, combined with the hardships of a recession, spawned the belief that Reagan was insensitive to his people's needs. (Although it was a 25% across-the-board tax cut, those people in the higher income brackets benefited the most.)
As economic hardship hit American homes, Reagan's approval rating hit rock bottom. In January 1983, it was estimated at a dismal 35 percent. Having failed in his promise to deliver economic prosperity, Reagan's reelection in 1984 seemed unlikely.
With a failing economy, hopes for a balanced budget vanished. Even David Stockman, Reagan's Budget Director and an advocate of supply side economics, fearing future deficits "as high as $200 billion," urged the president to cut taxes.
While Reagan finally agreed to a moderate tax increase on businesses, he steadfastly refused to raise income taxes or cut defense spending, despite a growing negative sentiment toward the buildup. In January 1983, with his approval rating at an all-time low, the economy slowly began to right itself. Unemployment, as high as ten percent in 1982, had improved enough by 1984 for his popularity to be restored, and by the November presidential election, it was hard to believe that a second term was ever in doubt.
The harsh economic medicine of the Federal Reserve Board, backed by Reagan, squeezed inflation out of the American economy and set the nation on the right economic course. During Reagan’s second term America prospered. Although the budget deficit continued to grow -- arguably the price tag of ending the Cold War -- the United States experienced the longest sustained peacetime prosperity in its history."
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/17/2010 7:13:35 PM
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Although some of the provisions in the reform bill won't be implemented immediately, here's what would go into effect in the first year after passage:
Eliminating caps: If you buy a policy, a health care company will not be able to place a lifetime -- or annual -- cap on how much they will cover. This will be especially important for those diagnosed with serious illnesses, such as cancer, who face steep medical bills.
Pre-existing conditions: The Senate bill includes $5 billion in immediate support to provide temporary coverage to uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions. The money would help until the new health care exchanges in the Senate bill are put into effect in 2014.
Children and pre-existing conditions: Another thing that's going to be very important, CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said, is that there will be no exclusion of children with pre-existing conditions.
Dependent children: Your children will be covered until the age of 26.
"Children who are over 21 and may not have a job that pays their health insurance can still be on your policy," Borger said. "That's very important to a lot of families."
Small business tax credits: Those tax credits are aimed at helping small businesses buy health insurance for their employees. Tax credits of up to 50 percent of premiums will be available to firms that offer coverage, according to the Senate's plan.
Preventive care: All new insurance plans, will be required to offer free preventive care in order to "catch preventable illnesses and diseases on the front end."
Appeals process: A new independent appeals process will be set up for those who feel that they were unfairly denied a claim by their insurance company.
Help for seniors: If you fall into the Medicare Part D Drug Benefit coverage gap, dubbed the "donut hole," you will receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions.
Have a nice evening.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 3/17/2010 7:07:25 PM
Message:
jbird=justanotherdrivebyidiot
Name: Don
Email: dongolf4@aol.com
Date: 3/17/2010 6:05:39 PM
Message:
It's an obelisk and it came from up on top of the mountain where it resided for many years. (or so I've been told).
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/17/2010 4:20:52 PM
Message:
9 -- that's number of states and the District of Columbia where there is still no specific law that makes it illegal for insurers to reject applicants who are survivors of domestic violence by citing the history of domestic violence as a pre-existing condition.
Unfortunately, the gender inequalities across our broken heath care system don't end there. In many states, insurance companies can still discriminate on the basis of gender -- charging women higher premiums than men simply because of their gender or denying coverage because of so-called "pre-existing conditions" like being pregnant, experiencing a prior pregnancy complication, or having undergone a C-section. And health plans in the individual market often do not cover basic maternity care.
Health insurance reform would end the days of discrimination based on gender. Insurance companies would be banned from denying coverage because of a pre-existing condition and would have to cover preventative care like mammograms.
See you soon
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 3/17/2010 4:16:55 PM
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In response to B.K Robertson’s letter in which he attempted to malign Mr. Barr and preach about condescending; I find it interesting that he states he will cut Mr. Barr some slack this time, and he will give Mr. Barr “the benefit of the doubt”. My how gracious of him. It seems to me that if anyone has a condescending attitude it is Robertson. He espouses to know much about everything from what I have seen in his rants while anyone not agreeing with his perception or anyone that does not agree with him is a socialist, a communist, a liberal, a whacko, a drunk, a drug addict, a traitor, and lets not forget if you are disabled from injuries received while in service to your country and receive disability benefits, you’re a dredge on society. If you paid into the social security system and became disabled at age 54 as my wife did and draw disability from social security your a leach or a mooch. In fact, most of what he writes about is fabricated or twisted to support HIS logic. This is the same Robertson that also submitted a letter to the Editor stating Sec. of State Clinton had promised the U.S. would provide ALL the funds discussed during the Copenhagen Conference in a program being considered to fight Global Warming even though what she said was the U.S. would assist, isn’t it? This is the same B. K. Robertson that has made countless claims of “illegal aliens will be given free medical care if health care reform passes” and continues to do so even today, even though that was debunked long ago isn’t it? This is the same B. K Robertson that has complained repeatedly about “We need to stop spending money we don’t have and then also complained about the government canceling funding for the F-22 Raptor program after even the military said they did not want nor need it, because he was employed in it isn’t it? Now his kick is Global Warming. Nobody needs to research anything to check if what he says is factual. It’s abundantly clear he really hasn’t got a clue about much of anything. My advice is to take anything Robertson has to say with a grain of salt. Talk about ego, he thinks people will check on his rhetoric. How condescending is that?
Name: Big Easy
Email:
Date: 3/17/2010 1:51:01 PM
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No Name if you watched the evening news last week it was on each of the four Atlanta stations as well as on the AJC's website.
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